To make the playoffs in a sixteen team conference with only three top seeds guaranteed a spot, it’s going to take at least ninety five points.
This means the three games under five hundred New York Islanders from this entry forward must play about eighteen games over.
The team matched my projected wins for the month, they have played some very competitive hockey although a free falling Nashville Predators team is not the best barometer.
The Kings held a hot Devils team to zero goals on 11/15. They came here 11-6 good for only 9th place in a fourteen team conference.
Aaron Ness had the best finish by a defender this season, tying him for the team lead in five on five goals at one.
I like what I’m seeing from Nelson, Donovan, Ness. Outside of the first Kings goal in the third period, Kevin Poulin’s been excellent.
The goaltender overall has not been the problem for this organization in 2013-14.
Matt Carkner had his usual redirection/screen leading to the tying goal. To constantly put him out in key situations much less shorthanded just gives talented fast scoring forwards on other teams an advantage.
No doubt Carkner’s doing his absolute best.
Still despite the competitive play reality does not lie. Three games under, few regulation wins, so many weaknesses from penalty kill to faceoffs.
This is with three players in the top ten in NHL scoring. One (Okposo) who had four goals in forty eight games in 2013. Another (Nielsen) having a career year.
It only get’s much tougher from here. One look at the rest of this month with the December schedule likely spells the end.
The criticism will be brutal, some of it will be justified, others well over the top. A lot of it from the professional ranks will come from a place of ignorance from afar, but you know that.
No one wants this franchise to prove me wrong more than myself.
Colin McDonald has not been healthy. The struggles by Grabner/Bailey are obvious recently.
Niederreiter’s on pace for 12/43+20 with limited minutes. Clutterbuck mostly eats minutes as a fourth liner, who’s not been healthy, and never going to make this trade salvageable unless he becomes a poor man’s Milan Lucic.
Cizikas/Martin have to give this team a lot more production.
Joe Finley is in the hospital for his second blood flow/hand issue since 2010. Pedan has been out. The list of recalls/PTO/injuries, and a few demotions to Stockton reflect a lot of turnover that this year goes beyond Scott Pellerin recently.
They have even won some very competitive games.
I kind of laugh when some are complaining about the Islanders power-play going 0-30/something.
This is not the 1980′s.
A power play at thirty percent levels off, which was never a good mix of distributed scoring that was sustainable to begin with. Even successful teams don’t operate at that number any longer for a season with the equipment goaltenders/players wear.
Entering Matt Moulson’s final game against Philadelphia the unit had ten goals (one 5-3 perimeter goal against Phoenix from Tavares) but was operating at 30.3 percent, while getting virtually nothing from it’s defenders.
Overall the numbers were more anomaly then fact, nothing built to last. Expecting Nielsen or Okposo to keep up their offensive pace was/is not realistic based on their career trends.
Bottom line until this team leans how to win low scoring games, and play some defense, it has no chance.
Twenty nine other teams are always looking for quality defenders. That kind of player is only available as a pending UFA rental if they waive a NTC/NVC because all of them have this clause.
Garth Snow’s experienced enough by now, and has seen this movie here with Steve Staios, Mike Mottau, Mark Eaton & Milan Jurcina. The team played better without them because the defense was faster.
The goals Nabokov allowed in Washington were about a hot team quickly exploiting a weak defense shorthanded. One of the teams positives has been it’s penalty kill, not so much this season.
The face-off problems are also becoming another alarming trend.
Management made the right call bring up Aaron Ness. They should bring up Calvin deHaan or someone else with him because Matt Carkner/Radek Martinek are never going to be the answer beyond a spot game.
Carkner & Boulton can go on waivers if Bridgeport wants to give Jon Sim some veteran company during his PTO.
I have never seen Martinek misread plays or coverage like he’s done in some recent games.
Offensive players see Carkner not with his stick/body in the right place on the ice, exploit his skating, and pass right through him but that’s what he did in Ottawa too which led to many frequent benchings.
Jack Capuano’s wearing down Hamonic, and MacDonald (approaching UFA) quickly.
The best of this team so far as been around five hundred even with the scoring which means they are well out of the playoff mix. (and they have had every break in a mediocre division or they would be ten points out of that third seed already)
Too many other players eat ice time, and provide nothing but at best an even shift. If your fourth line is full of minus players that is not a good unit.
Donovan-Ness were both plus players on a terrible defensive team in Bridgeport together last season, I would put them together.
If Boston can give Dave Scatchard sixteen million dollars, and ship him to Phoenix without a month or two, Garth Snow can correct his mistake with Cal Clutterbuck, and move him to another team so 1st round selection Brock Nelson has a permanent spot here off the Sound Tigers rookie scoring record a year ago while improving another weakness.
That laughter in the background is from Edmonton when Snow offers him up for Nail Yakupov which is why Nino Niederreiter is never traded at that age unless it’s for a similar prospect coming off an All-Star development season in the AHL.
Please stop writing Niederreiter demanded a trade, there is no such quote anywhere. He had a binding contract for 2013-14 to be a member of this franchise with the club owning his rights for years after that.
The only silly quotes are coming out of some Minnesota media going back to 2007.
So let’s go back to 12/21/07 entry and remind everyone Don Lucia decided to discuss the Islanders, and Snow responded.
Matt Donovan, & Nino Niederreiter were named to the starting lineup by the fans for the 2013 AHL All-Star Game in Providence on 1/27-1/28.
Both players thanked the fans on their twitter feeds Saturday.
Bridgeport off losing a third period 1-0 lead on Friday, has another game in Norfolk on Saturday before the break.
That’s Nino Niederreiter speaking likely on 1/22/13.
The Sound Tigers website released this update on 1/22/13.
Note-The team video was released between 10am-11am on the teams twitter feed or before any other updates on Tuesday.
1/22/13: Niederreiter’s personal twitter feed also RT this update around 10am here.
Niederreiter later added this to his Facebook page on 1/22/13
Kirill Kabanov is getting very close to returning, it’s possible he goes to Norfolk next weekend.
Tsn.ca reported Snow left St Petersberg on 12/21/2004 in an era before there was a KHL.
On 7/29/2005 Snow was resigned by the Isles to a three year extension as an UFA.
This entry has nothing to do with the previous post about the general manager.
I felt it would be interesting to take a quick look back at how NHL locked out player, Garth Snow, saw the 2004-05 lockout.
I always remembered this interview because of his honest, candid comments at the time.
Snow before 2010 was the only former player who had become a general manager since the 04-05 lockout beyond brief co-gm Brett Hull with Dallas who retired in October 2005.
It has nothing to do with players immediately named gm.
Bob Clarke was hired as gm by Ed Snider of the Flyers upon his retirement after 83-84, who was fired by Jay Snider before becoming gm in Minnesota, Florida before returning as senior vp, then gm, which he held until 2006 when after being fired he again was named senior vp in Dec 2006.
Ray Shero was a long-time assistant in Ottawa/Nashville before behind hired by Pittsburgh in 2006.
Dave Nonis was gm in Vanvouver from 2004-2008.
Among the current general managers:
Steve Yzerman was named Tampa’s gm in 2010, his final NHL season was 2005-06.
Former Islander/new Montreal gm, Marc Bergervin’s final NHL season was 2003-04.
Fun Story Of The Day:
So in September 2001 Vancouver gm Brian Burke wanted to claim Garth Snow off waivers?
Sorry gang, Snow’s 2000-01 stats in Pittsburgh did not scream he had improved. Chris Osgood was also claimed off waivers with DiPietro being left in Bridgeport.
Nino Niederreiter scored two goals in first period, took a stick in the face, returned but only took one brief pp shift in second period on Wednesday in Sound Tigers 5-2 win. David Ullstrom has three assist, one ENG.
Nothing on Travis Hamonic or Brock Nelson close to returning.
NY Post: General manager, Garth Snow, had a few comments regarding his team within the last day, where he spoke on a variety of subjects.
On adding another forward:
“Right now, I don’t have any plans to add another forward to our group, As much as we’d like to add quality veterans, we’re not going to box out our young guys.”
On veterans skating on Iceworks:
“We always have given access to our facilities, not only to our current players but to our alumni.”
On Nino Niederreiter:
“We want to give a guy like Nino a chance to make our team.”
“A lot of things can happen, an injury to a player, “We’re not ruling out anything.”
Not much to add, the general manager will make the moves the best improve his team, nothing was provided on Josh Bailey, which needed to be asked.
Interesting the doormat NY Post, actually spoke to the general manager while Newsday was silent.
Image of the Islanders installing a team store at the Coliseum, could reflect more of Charles Wang’s personal spending to upgrade a facility he does not own.
Writing the NIFA meeting will be live here Thursday at 4pm may not be correct.
NIFA meetings are archived for viewing. It may have been a bit presumptuous on NYIFC part, that automatically (like Nassau) the NIFA meeting would also been shown live at 4pm via live web cast.
We apologize in advance if the meeting is not live-streamed at 4pm.
Like Nassau County all NIFA meetings can be seen with no media spin. NIFA had it’s Jan-April meeting (likely others) at the Marriott, so there is nothing to be read into that.
Many past NIFA meetings are available for viewing, most are only a few minutes with none of the debate/lobbying you see in County meeting process.
NYIFC 8.1.11 section (right sidebar bottom of page) has all available information, including all Stadium/Arena referendum outcomes since 1990.
New York Islander Fan Central twitter on side-bars & special section set up for rookie camp, has had plenty of coverage.
7/13: ITV had video interviews with Ryan Strome, Calvin deHaan, Anders Nilsson, among others.
7/16 ITV: will show Blue vs White Live Saturday at 7pm.
Only expectation I have from prospect camp is no players are injured. The Devils, Adam Larsson, and several prospects have sustained injuries in their camp this week here.
Eric Boguniecki : signed by Bridgeport as as assistant to new Head Coach, Brent Thompson.
This is somewhat of a surprise given the club has a lot of folks, who have had brief appearances on the Sound Tigers bench, Matt Bertani was retained as an assistant.
Seems management felt a need to add a second assistant or Thompson was permitted his own hire?
New York Notables:
1. Funny how Charles Wang is spending the same forty million he was before there was a cap floor or ceiling, and not one person writes about it? Roloson/Wisniewski were traded with no replacements and the New York Islanders did not go below the floor, which means they were at least four million above it.
But why go there?
2. It’s already 7/13, how dare the Islanders not sign Bryan McCabe for three million, Alexei Kovalev/Zherdev for another two million and subject us to actually seeing if Calvin deHaan, Nino Niederreiter can make the club out of camp?
At least replace Godard and Mike Rupp? We have no one to stand up for John Tavares. (wrong Atlantic team and era)
2A. It’s not 1998-2008 for Bryan McCabe or Kovalev anymore. The right wings in the system may be a lot better than Zherdev now. Kyle Okposo will likely be back with Tavares and Moulson on the first line, with Parenteau going down a line or two.
3. How are the Islanders going to compete with a defense that has Eric Brewer, MA Bergeron, Bruno Gervais and Matt Gilroy?
3A. Victor Hedman is a very good player, spare me about the rest being better than the Islanders or most other teams at this time.
4. Make an offer sheet (insert star player name) what are they waiting for?
End of story.
How Low Can You Go Department:
1. I watched the Nassau County meeting Monday which included spending four million dollars in repairs to the Nassau Coliseum, it quickly and quietly passed, but those needing to create a story out of nothing (beyond selling themselves) did what they do best for their own selfish purposes.
1A. Not like the Nassau Coliseum had to cancel an Islanders home game because of asbestos issues, but those same folks would not dare write one word on that and retain a credential.
1B. Instead let’s interview some former players to whole-heartedly, without question and from a completely honest place support the Islanders staying, while in the background, it’s kept as negative as possible in the owners paper, which contributed greatly to the teams attendance/coverage issues since they started pulling games off television in 1998.
1C. What’s next the Islanders refused their Metro Ice Challenge Winnings, or a pregame a few years ago because their TV partner is so wonderful? That the Islanders do not even want preseason games televised/or preseason specials? That the team does not even want our great partners to be burdened with live web-casted preseason games to help interest? Just place all the games on an insulting channel named for Madison Square Garden and hold the HD/ratings, while spamming Msg teams across every telecast.
1D. Anyone have a bridge to nowhere to sell cheap beyond the one going up at a renovated Msg? This end game is all about October 2015, quietly riding in as the good guy while saving hundreds of millions.
Since 1998, the history reflects the truth.
2. PHWA President, Kevin Allen, has no answers on what to do with blogger vs writer credentials issue here beyond letting the teams decide or who vouches for individuals in markets where there is less coverage?
I personally like Kevin Allen’s work, but his answer seems to be pass the buck or stay above it as association president. Perhaps he’s too smart to take a stand?
3. Beyond comical the same article reports the NY Times, does not allow it’s hockey writers to vote for NHL awards? You may recall this was the same publication demanding transparency last November on Islanders media policies? NYIFC called out this hypocrisy once again on April 5th.
4. Yes folks, it’s 2011. Hockey information has regressed so much we have comedy sideshows playing insiders on teams finances, with select professional media outlets so cheap and lazy they use them as actual resources.
Then those same publications, call out the teams for not spending enough?
4A. Where’s X-Ice when you need them with long memories of Islanders earliest website versions.
5. Maybe we can get some of these comedy sideshow kiddies to publish the salaries of all the professional North American hockey writers? Then we can see which editors, publishers, and owners are the real hockey coverage problem?
5A. Will be fun to see the NY Post calling out Rupert Murdoch (NEVER), which needs to save a little money these days, firing Larry Brooks/Mark Everson and replacing them with AP coverage which would be a dramatic improvement for New York hockey credibility at the Post.
6. Let’s end on a good note-Type the words Fort Neverlose into Google maps.
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Mississauga St. Michaels Majors lost game two in overtime Friday, Cizikas had an assist. Niederreiter had a first period goal for Portland in WHL final.
No twitter, OHL draft going on so too many updates.
Yes, I know some of you could care less or it’s not your problem, however some of our fans desperately need a reality check on your perception of this owner and the New York Islanders as a franchise.
No, not from the Canadian/Dolan/Rupert Murdoch/media influencing many of you.
No, not even from this blog, but simply from the facts.
Far too many base it upon a steady diet of overtly negative coverage that is not fair or reality based. Our team is covered by a Fox News/Msnbc-like media with the New York Islanders always being the other party.
I also absolutely understand our teams fans use the Yankee/Met/New Jersey Football/Cablevision/Prudential Center Devils, template for our local teams spending on payroll and that many will gauge team perception on payroll vs low ticket prices.
The Mets can spend 140m on payroll and for some that is not considered trying.
You expect the same from this owner or your perception (usually enhanced by outside media fueling you) is that this ownership does not care or is not trying.
Reality is those franchises received taxpayer exepmtions or parts of their new facilities were paid for by the public with bonds or infrastructure/internal things like low-cost electricity.
I have posted enough links to those articles here.
Charles Wang has received none of those things. Wang and/or Rechler spent seventeen million dollars so Smg would give them Islanders full ticket revenue/concessions/parking along with other event revenue. Some actually believe that was some free gift Tom Suozzi gave them as departing county executive?
The seventeen million was Smg’s gift in case the facility was closed during the summer and a renovation actually happened because that was revenue Smg would have lost. Wang-Rechler for their trouble lost close to another 20m putting together the LH project between studies/presentations.
As for Charles Wang’s Islander payrolls you can dispute over the years how he spent his money on the wrong long-term contracts, but he did spend and proved he’s not Howard Milstein, or John Pickett post 1990 so get over it until he tells Garth Snow to sell off John Tavares to cut payroll.
A lot of what I read is frankly disgraceful. Anyone who tells you they know what Charles Wang does internally regarding his day to day role as owner of this franchise is lying to you.
Find me one former player in the last ten years who has played here, left this franchise and knocked this ownership in one newspaper?
Wang cannot sign star free agents? Neither can twenty plus other non-corporate franchises without a front-loaded contract regardless of what the building looks like. The Montreal Canadians are the most popular team in the NHL, what star players have signed to play there or have they offered a front-loaded contract to?
The next star free agent who signs anywhere without a front-loaded deal will be the first. Paul Martin is not a star free agent.
As for Charles Wang we’ll see what he does when it’s time to pay Tavares, Okposo, Bailey and the key players out of Garth Snow’s top prospects. Many were brought to the NHL early which will cost the owner more money because they will reach UFA earlier.
Over the years what top prospects have not been signed because of salary?
Bottom line you create your own perception.
Hopefully you are guided by facts, not media with an agenda or folks who don’t follow the team but check in to play expert for a day. Most are largely more interested in writing anything to get you to notice their articles to build page-views or their profile.
Yes, I understand some of you could care less how much money a millionaire can lose or it’s not your problem, just lose more money, give me 1981 ticket prices, or don’t waste my time.
For those who feel that way you can stop reading now.
The viewpoint of NYIFC should not influence you.
Having written that how many links to articles from credible media (not sideshows or guesswork like Michael Ozanian/Forbes or shock jocks in Toronto) have been posted here directly with quotes from team owners/management in modern buildings who claim they are losing money?
That should influence you.
This blog has produced links (see archives) from Chicago ownership on losing money after winning the cup last season, on the Caps receiving revenue sharing and losing money and the Devils losses in an arena Newark largely paid for.
The Cablevision Ranger losses have been well-documented in our archives also with a large majority of the franchises.
The Minnesota Wild are even losing money now here according to their ownership.
Glendale paid it’s twenty five million to the league, the NHL (not Forbes/Ozanian) claim the franchise lost close to thirty six million at that modern facility or what the BlackHawks were losing.
So how can the most ardent Wang critic begin to make any credible case his team is self-sustaining in it’s current situation?
Fair Criticism Of Wang:
Sure there are fair and reasonable things to be critical of regarding Wang’s ownership. I can make a longer list (and will here) but always get stuck on this issue.
The Long Island label spammed into practically every release for a New York franchise has been Wang or his supports managers biggest mistake. Perhaps it was the Lighthouse or Arena issue to rally local support but it’s a mistake that has limited perception and coverage of a franchise as much New York/New York City as the Yankees.
It’s given media an excuse to save budget money and cut coverage.
It’s like the Giants and Jets demanding to be called East Rutherford and putting it in every team release.
Spare me on who Wang decides calls his teams games, that’s all Dolan/Cablevision/Msg/Newsday. You really want Wang or Michael Picker to fight that one?
That will result in Wang’s Islanders hidden on Msg+2 for 82 games or some out allows Dolan to take team off television again entirely. Good luck buying ad space in Dolan’s paper to advertise games also after you do that.
Likely Montoya (nope) vs Tavares at WC Friday. Nabokov left last game with an injury for Russia. Anders Nilsson is Sweden’s third goaltender for those curious and Jesse Joensuu to date has not played in one game.
Casey Cizikas is in the running for the OHL Most Outstanding Player Award here as Majors lead their finals series.
Cizikas has to be signed by 6/1 or he can re-enter draft.
Nino Niederreiter has been dominating as Portland opens Western Hockey League championship series tonight.
“It must be remembered that the Islanders had a terrible sequence of defeats at some point (14 games without a win), However, the team was never decommissioned, she was often lost by the margin of a goal.
“I often found myself on the ice in the final minute of play with the Islanders, and I was on the ice for not less than 13 goals the opponent scored into an empty net! The differential may be misleading in several respects.”
James Wisniewski-Montreal cyberpresse.ca 5/6/2011 on his plus minus in 2010/11.
Thrilled for Bergenehim, Roloson, Bergeron, Brewer and especially Wayne Flemming or any other former Islanders I missed. Would love to see Tambellini get a chance in Vancouver.
I keep getting the same comments, the New York Islanders have been rebuilding/developing for years, then comes the no playoff wins since 93 mantra.
This is simply not true.
My response to this always is when they were making four playoffs in six years, that was not developing. They did have some prospects who could contribute at this level, however most did not make it.
The verdict is in on the drafts from 2002-2005, outside of Blake Comeau, Frans Nielsen or Bruno Gervais, it’s not looking very good in terms of impact players in New York or around the NHL.
In Ted Nolan’s final year when they lost a league leading 402 man games to injury or a league leading 582 in 08-09 that was not developing.
Those seasons (especially 08-09) were about finding enough healthy bodies to fill out a lineup with Tim Jackman playing five games in five days for the Islanders and Sound Tigers. In 07-08, the injuries hit hardest the final month so they stayed in contention to a degree.
Last year with only 250 man games lost to injury, that was more about development, the proof was in the improvement in the standings, and the wins against all of the top teams.
This year ended before it got a chance to start in many ways, it’s very much like 08-09 now even with the scoring problems surfacing early, and the reality check that many of the past picks/some via trade (Nielsen, Comeau, Hunter, Tambellini) did not step up and produce at a time they had to for this to have a chance.
I don’t see 2010-11 as developing, as much as I see it as again surviving a season.
That may happen along the way but Travis Hamonic is here because practically every single defender has been out or injured/suspended or playing hurt.
The hard, bitter truth is Florida never got there with development, and a decade later are still working through it. Phoenix, Los Angeles, Chicago took close to a decade, and a lot of steps backwards along the way. St Louis, Columbus, Nashville and many other franchises could still go either way.
One year, one eighteen point improvement, sandwiched between three years decimated with injury is not real development or giving a plan a chance. It’s not even the start of real development/improvement until these players not only produce at this level, but learn to win, and have a healthy supporting cast to help them.
Right now this is only surviving a season, and seeing what some of these kids can do.
Glendale stepped up and invested in saving the Coyotes franchise, for better or worse their new owner (when approved) will be willing to bleed millions for likely a decade plus.
Nassau/TOH are not giving Charles Wang (or Scott Rechler) the time of day for free, Wang and/or Rechler are paying Smg 17m for what some claim are a gift.
The clock is ticking.
To the best of my knowledge, it’s Calvin deHaan, Casey Cizikas, Brock Nelson, Nino Niederreiter representing New York at the WJC starting Dec 26th.